3rd party filters whilst using the AppImage binary

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Hi! I’m an old Adobe Premiere user and I’m jumping ship from Windows. So Linux Mint is my current OS and I’ve been using the Shotcut 22.09.23 AppImage binary. I also see a Flatpak version but it is not the latest version.

I’ve been watching tutorials etc., Yeah OK, enough about my life story…

Is there a way to drop a 3rd party filter into my filesystem so that the AppImage will find it?

For example Shotcut Video Filter: Persistence

on linux it may be: /usr/bin/shotcut/share/shotcut/qml/filters

That path doesn’t exist of course. If I create it will the AppImage binary recognize it?

Thanks
Bossy

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Use the portable tar if you want to do that. The AppImage, Flatpak, and Snap are basically closed.

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Ok, untar’d the portable version. I installed it in /usr/local/bin/ so the full path is /usr/local/bin/Shotcut/Shotcut.app and I’ve fixed up my Start Menu entry to get it to run there.

I believe any 3rd part filters would now go into /usr/local/bin/Shotcut/Shotcut.app/share/shotcut/qml/filters
so I’ll try that.

However, when I start it up (either here or in my home folder) I get an error message…

version

Is this expected? it would be nice to have the new version notification.

Thanks for the tip on the portable version.

Bossy

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I would suggest it’s borderline on being a program bug :slight_smile:

Filters like this imho probably should go somewhere local like ~/.local/melty/Shotcut/qml/filters on linux or \Users<user>\Appdata\local\MeltyTech\Shotcut\qml\filters on windows and be picked up there.

This is because they are local for a user and not directly part of the program itself which is set to be read-only for various reasons.

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Hmmm. I don’t have a path like that in home. The closest I get ~/.local/share/Meltytech/Shotcut/ and there is no qml or filters subfolder.

It’s not a show stopper.

Oh look! a log file…

So, more info on the version.json issue…

[Info   ] <MainWindow::showStatusMessage> "Checking for upgrade..." 
[Warning] <MainWindow::onUpgradeCheckFinished> "SSL handshake failed" 

/home/bossybear # openssl version
OpenSSL 3.0.2 15 Mar 2022
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Yes you are correct, that’s the location that I meant.

That is the location that I think the Filters should go in if they are not already.

I think having better and a more open Filter support system in Shotcut would be really positive for a number of reasons.

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That’s usually a Certificate issue in OpenSSL rather than a program issue. You might need to upgrade some .PEM files somewhere. Check a search engine for further help.

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I’ve done a pile of searching about this and I don’t see a solution. OpenSSL is up to date. CA-Certificates are up to date. There are some references to this being an issue with the Qt5 kit. I have a brand new desktop and an older laptop both with fresh installations of Linux Mint and they both behave the same way. “Check a search engine” is not a practical solution for a casual user where the solution is not obvious.

I’m going to packet capture this to get the URL and try it from a browser to check the certificate. That will tell me if it’s an OpenSSL issue generally or a Qt5 problem.

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That’s a fair enough comment, However I can only pass on what I know from where I have seen the same problem elsewhere, such as doing TLS upgrades in Banking and Financial Software.

It also could be much more fundamental like an AppImage not having file-write access because of the inherent Security Policy That means that the entire TLS system won’t be able to write to the program directory. I’m only guessing - I could easily be wrong.

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:joy:

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@david.lyon I moved from AppImage to the tar binary based on the recommendation from @shotcut hoping to get the 3rd party plugins to work. I think they are too old and no longer compatible, so I gave up on that. Not a big deal.

Shotcut is very good quality software, amazing really, considering it is FOSS. I selected it for those reasons, so I hope this is taken as feedback, not criticism. I’m just reporting things that don’t work out of the box as a new user would expect.

Thank you for your comments.

It seems the app is attempting to connect to 142.251.32.138 (dfw28s29-in-f10.1e100.net) during the QUIC handshake and failing…

[Failed to create decryption context: Secrets are not available]
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Hi. I’m not an expert at all, but Filter:Persistence by Elusien was working on Shotcut HTML5 (QtWebKit) builds before V20.10.31

Bonjour. Je ne suis pas du tout spécialiste, mais le filtre : Persistence de Elusien fonctionnait sur les versions de Shotcut HTML5 (QtWebKit) antérieures à la V20.10.31

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The only thing it connects to is check.shotcut.org when you ask it to check for an upgrade (and some other menu items that open web pages on shotcut.org).

shotcut/mainwindow.cpp at master · mltframework/shotcut (github.com)

DNS Lookup - Check DNS Records (dnschecker.org)

Use the Trails video filter for similar to Persistence.

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@shotcut I see https://check.shotcut.org/version.json is there I can get it from the command line without issue.

curl https://check.shotcut.org/version.json
{
  "version_number": 220923,
  "version_string": "22.09.23",
  "url": "https://shotcut.org/blog/new-release-220923/"
}

Wouldn’t OpenSSL complain if there was a CA/chain/cert issue?

Thanks for the tip on the Trails filter!

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